I just cant imagine my peers posting things like that. I certainly wasnt there so I cant vouch one way or another. An earlier version of this article misstated the date of Logans death. Would that indicate they (Abby and Libby) were put there after the search was called off? Moments after multiple law enforcement agencies announced the arrest of Richard Allen, 50, in the 2017 killings of Delphi teenagers Libby German and Abby Williams, the grandparents of one of the girls spoke of how their lives have turned a page. The agent said Logan claimed someone drove him to an aquarium store in Lafayette on the afternoon of February 13 at the time the girls disappeared. Think about it like this. allege he killed Libby German and Abby Williams, Review the case through 5 years of reporting, Indiana town wants answers about man who 'blended in', Your California Privacy Rights/Privacy Policy. Support the best Delphi sleuthing group of all! At the conclusion of Tuesday morning's 40-minute hearing, Special Judge Fran Gull said she will publish a decision on whether to make public the charging documents and affidavit after reviewing both sides' arguments. We now have two separate SPMs both independently reporting that they saw dolls hanging from trees at the crime scene. 'Today is the day': Update to Delphi murders of Libby and Abby announced by ISP, Your California Privacy Rights/Privacy Policy. Generally at organized searches there's a required sign in sheet so all the volunteers can be accounted for at the end of the search shift. Allen, 50, has been. Breaks my heart that the family had to try so hard to get help. A special needs woman and a toddler? And were going to stay after it. Travis Trexler, a cousin of alleged Snapchat catfish and child predator Kegan Kline, was arrested in Wabash County, Indiana, at the beginning of September on DUI charges, The U.S. Sun can exclusively reveal. The agent also references the video on Libbys phone where the suspect says guys, down the hill. She confirms the full video is 43 seconds long. He was seated right smack in the middle of the room. The search continued Tuesday morning, Valentine's Day, along the trails and the creek. Were going to keep pushing all the way. No, but no way is this guy involved. Logan was never formally named a suspect and never charged in the Delphi murders. The transcript shows that he also failed a polygraph test about his knowledge of the Delphi case, after which he returned home and deleted his Snapchat and Instagram accounts. I know this all describes Mr. X, but I still think these same things, whether its him or someone else. He was in the area because he liked rail bridges, had endless hours to wander, and perhaps was hoping for an opportunity to grab a young girl. Because this is a pending investigation, we do not have any details to share at this time., FBI Special Agent in Charge Herbert J. Stapleton. In a news conference, Indiana State Police shared Richard Allen, 50, of Delphi, was arrested Wednesday and charged on two counts of murder during a court hearing two days later. Is this confirmed? How was it organized? It seems wrong somehow that it could be this narcissistic doofus. Nice guy! An attorney listed for Trexler has not yet responded to a request for comment. " (T)he media accounts concerning this cause have contained an undue number of statements relating no only to the progress of the investigation, but conclusions of the investigation, some of which have been untrue.". Trexler was held in custody for a week in place of a $1,200 bond. Since then, police have formed a task force for the case, interviewed suspects and followed tips, eventually leading to Allen's arrest. For years, Becky Patty, Libertys grandmother, has posted a photo on Facebook every day in memory of the girls, usually with the words Today is the day in the image. Here in Gary, about two years ago, a special needs woman and a toddler she lived with went missing. The river is roughly 40 miles from whereLibby and Abby were killed and around two miles from theKline family home. It seems odd. We definitely need to look into this a lot further, thats for sure. Crews were being sent out 10 to 12 people at a time to help cover an area of 20 to 25 square miles, Leazenby said. The tattoo has already been debunked. The public has an absolute right to the information, but at what cost? McLeland said. Ive always said that I would be screaming on the rooftop. Libby was 14 when she was murdered in 2017. Its not his mother and its not the Exorcist girl, its Libby. Indiana State Police. As you can see in the subhead of my title, I am challenging my critics about their certainty that there was no stuffed animal left at the crime scene. Validated through one of your LE sources? The members of the search party who found them must still have visions and memories of that tragic day etched in their minds. Would you consider writing a post on him? I find it pretty compelling that BP is connected to 6 murdered girls!? Every time one comes up, everybody flips and says this is the guy!! Id assume the kind that is foggy? So we have three people who arrived at the conclusion independently that there was at least one stuffed animal left at the time. Its like he wants these two tween girls on the cusp of womanhood to remain forever children and sexually innocent and so leaves them surrounded by a childs toys, both as a kind of apology to them, as well as way to announce to the world that he has effectively preserved them as children forever. "Weve still got, now weve got a big mountain ahead of us. "I literally have no clue how that girl died; I don't know anything, anything to do with it," he told cops. Also Thursday, the Indiana Department of Correction said Richard Allen, who has been charged with murder in the deaths of Abby Williams and Libby German, has been moved to one of their facilities. We would love to hear your thoughts on him and why or why not he might be a suspect in the Delphi murders. The chatter rose again after Allen sat down between his attorneys. Its the wife herself supposedly coming back to give him his keys. And its likely that BG did work there, as youve pointed out, since he killed Libby the same way pigs are slaughtered. The family had trouble finding people to help them search. The pre-hearing courtroom chatter grew quiet as deputies led Allen into the courtroom from a back door. And you guys have not given up on us. By mid-morning, the downtown Delphi Fire Department became a makeshift command center for volunteers assisting in the search. "If it is related, whatever they're looking for, I hope it comes sooner rather than later. Suspicious as Hell if you ask me. We will refer to this new informant as SPM2 for Search Party Member 2. You see, another two victims together (if they suspect foul play?) OR he passed the girls and tried to speak to them and was rebuffed by Libby which made him angry, and he then began to stalk them. This is also a problem because brains go everywhere and this is probably how those prion diseases like Mad Cow disease are spreading. ", Delphi man charged with murder in killings of Libby German and Abby Williams. Clear as day. the detective asked. Its nice to have a serious conversation without people chiming in with what if BG is a woman? (one thing I actually read this week) and other absurd speculation. As we all know, LE has kept info about the crime scene and the girls' COD, etc., strictly "close to the vest"). Also who said this crime was over quickly? Its too convenient that BP appraised the house, like you said, she is connected to 6 murdered childrenMy theory? A Valentines bear makes sense. You would think that a bunch of dolls hanging from the trees and stuffed animals would draw a lot of attention to the killzone if not at night then at least when the lights came back on. These VD animals are often holding a sign in their hands that says, I love you, or some such. 4 things we learned about arrest in deaths of Liberty German and Abigail Williams, What we know and don't know 5 years after Abby and Libby were killed, Your California Privacy Rights/Privacy Policy. Hi Robert. "While theres somebody thats been arrested, our lives for five and a half years have been in a search mode and thats what weve done. The superintendent reminded those attending and listening remotely to the press conference to continue sending any information related to the case about Allen or any other individual to the tip line set up years ago: Call 1-844-459-5786; or email abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com. The Delphi Murder Tip Line was routed to the FBI's Major Case Contract Center in Washington, D.C because of the sheer number of calls they were receiving. He loves the outdoors, but for all his pictures of creeks, bridges, and tents, I havent seen any camo-wearing, rifle-carrying hunting pics that are standard for the FB pages of small town guys who hunt. Delphi has a park dedicated to the teens, called the Abby and Libby Memorial Park, honoring their love for sports and the outdoors. I doubt hes seen that classic film, but girls as flowers is common imagery. Wouldnt LE and Fire officials have kept a list of folks who participated in the search? I live on a fixed income which is barely above the poverty level. CVS worker Richard Matthew Allen, 50, was charged in October after an analysis concluded a 40-caliber round that was found between the bodies of 14-year-old Libby German and 13-year-old Abby Williams had come from a gun he owned, according to a probable cause affidavit made public Tuesday. Officials weren't sure just how many volunteers came, but sign-in sheets appeared to log hundreds." Robert Lindsay, Independent Journalist: l Talk about Things You're Not Supposed to Talk About. You realize that we have a detective in Indiana who told us that Mr. X is LEs main suspect in this case, right? A RELATIVE of a suspect in the Delphi murders was taken into custody earlier this month as investigators concluded a weeks-long search in a local river potentially linked to the unsolved case. Makes me wonder if LE did look at him at one point. My thoughts as well. I saw that. Great Summary! Legal documents released earlier this month also seem to support the assertion. Indiana State Police made headway on Friday in the 2017 cold case commonly referred to as the Delphi Murders. And my calculations by measuring the bear and comparing it to the height of Abby (54?) Regarding Mr X, wouldnt the girls have known him if he were friends with Libertys grandparents? We also have it from two separate search party members independently that they were told to not tell anyone what they had seen. I theorize that after release from prison he was itinerant and carried a gun for protection. State police have refused to disclose what they were searching for or may have found; however, it's believed the extensive operation is connected to Trexler's cousin, Kegan Kline. Just a guess. Logan was never formally named a suspect and never charged in the Delphi murders. According to court papers, Kline was temporarily moved from the custody of his local authorities and into the hands of ISP, the lead investigators in the Delphi murders, at around the same time the river search began. That seems proven at this point. The team member said that SPM1 corroborated everything that she had told me, so she is at least consistent in her testimony. I dont agree that any of these people are grifters as everyone says. One of the only early clues to their killing was a video Libby took on her phone, capturing a man approaching them, who then could be heard telling the girls to go "down the hill. DELPHI, Ind. DELPHI, Ind. As for McLeland's concern for the safety of the witnesses, Rozzi said, I havent heard, nor have I seen in the evidence presented, any actionable threats.. Unless she time traveled back to 2015-16 but maintained her age, th our math would make her 16 in 2017. Thats how he knew they were going to be there at that date and time. He wore layers because he was living largely outside. Our group is clearly the best Delphi sleuthing group on the Internet by far. "Today is not a day to celebrate," Superintendent of the Indiana State Police Doug Carter said. Im not sure if the reason for this is because the search parties just mentally glossed over that particular location for more remote spots or because theres something geographically strategic about that particular area that makes it less detectable. In an effort to help the public recognize whom they were looking for, Indiana State Police in July 2017 released a composite sketch of what they thought the killer looked like. On Sunday, Patty posted a photo of Liberty near a pool, a beach towel tied around her like a cape with the caption: Fitting., After Mondays news conference, Kelsi German, Libertys sister, said in a tweet: Oct. Theres a puppy sticking out of the bears collar. I dont even know what that means. Sarah Larimer contributed to this report. Of course he knew who they were. Maybe BG felt he would be able to identify him since he had Crime Scene experience and had him done away with. First, a pitch for support for this website and our sleuthing group: People are donating lots of money to Delphi podcasters Mike Greeno and Gray Hughes, which is their right. and our The next day, volunteers from the community formed a search party, and found the girls bodies in a wooded area near the trail. I sure would like to know more about this. Big Tweety bird eyes. The teens lived in the tiny town about 70 miles northwest of Indianapolis. Its from a Youtube video of some guy who edited the publicly available helicopter footage. If you have any information on the Delphi murders, contact law enforcement at 1-800-225-5324 or Abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com. Thanks for your response: appreciate that. Authorities conducted an all-day search of the Delphi double murder suspect's property around 10 days before his arrest, sources told The Post. Allen is being held at the White County jail without bond and has hearing dates scheduled for January and March 2023. Delphi murders:What we know and don't know 5 years after Abby and Libby were killed. Doug Carter of the Indiana State Police provides an update on the Delphi murders investigation on April 22, 2019, in Delphi, Ind. DELPHI, Ind. Carroll County prosecutor Nick McLeland give update on the Delphi murders. This makes me think of the dolls and stuffed animal left at the scene. As Carter said, This is about power to you.. As per the transcript, Kline also allegedly searched "how long does DNA last" in the aftermath of the murders, in addition to Googling updates on the Delphi investigation and searching for information about other unsolved killings, including the murder of JonBentRamsey. "Its somewhat bittersweet," Mike Patty, grandfather of Libby, told reporters Monday gathered at the DelphiUnited Methodist Church, "knowing it allows us to move to the next turn, the next chapter. Until his arrest last week on two counts of first-degree murder, Allen, 50, had no prior criminal record. The two SPMs discussed above have both told us that LE told them not to tell anyone what they had seen at the crime scene. I think I read about that case! Authorities previously released a. "My office, me, felt it was important to seal those records," McLeland said. "It could potentially have nothing to do with the girls at all, and that's the sickening thing about it all, that it gets all this talk, but it may have nothing to do with them, and then I get myself all upset over nothing. Compared to most single men his age, I dont think he has much animus towards young women at all. It was unclear Monday whether Allen has an attorney. How do we help.". Stuffed animals at a double murder scene are weird enough, granted. The 38-year-old was arrested in September 2015 on a warrant for operating a vehicle while intoxicated and driving while intoxicated with a controlled substance. Doug Carter, superintendent of the Indiana State Police, announced Richard Allen, 50, of Delphi has been charged with two counts of murder in the deaths of Libby and Abby. At least, assuming the Mr. X stuff is confirmed. And also know if any of the POIs were around that night, right? A man being eyed in the unsolved 2017 murders of two teens in Delphi, Indiana, has an "evil streak" and is "absolutely capable" of committing that type of crime, his brother said. Im almost 100% the Flora case is connected to the Delphi case. She said police hadn't contacted her about the search but had been for other significant developments. We now know who the FBI was looking into at first as a potential . How about getting your moneys worth? A search party found Libby and Abby's bodies along the Deer Creek, about a quarter of a mile east of the Monon High Bridge. How could that not be a stuffed animal? The bad guy knew they would be at the bridge that day bc they told someone or the bad guy overheard conversation by way of being close to the family, being nearby as drop off and pick up plans were made. The arrest of Allen comes nearly six years after Libby and Abby were murdered. Ive seen some criticism of your stuffed bear theory, and I personally think its nuts, but if that image is realIf it is real, what do think the motive was? I would like to know when BP appraised that house and when the fire happened, 2 days 5 days, 2 weeks etc.? 0:04. I'm wondering if the families were even told about what the scene itself disclosed, or given any details about the crime scene such as; how the girls' bodies were left at the crime scene. We cannot publicly convict someone based on a single document which was not released by investigators. Begs the question, WTF were they up to? Or Libby was going to tell all and bring many people down from previous insurance/appraisal scams? It was his first appearance in public since his Oct. 28 arrest and initial hearing. Becky Patty said that Libby had met Mr. X a couple of times, but she didnt think Libby would recognize him. He was also charged with similar offenses in November 2021 - a pending case at the time of his arrest earlier this month. Unlike any other sleuthers, we have actually determined the main suspect in the case, and we have a pretty good idea of what happened during the crime and what the crime scene looked like. He himself is then arrested for trying to rape/kill a nine year old. ", The detective said: "Then why'd you search?". At this point, this rumor seems like its proven at least to my satisfaction. . Were not doing that anymore. It looks like a stuffed holiday (Christmas) Tweety bird to me. Who said there were stuffed animals at the crime scene? Either LE or coroner: It was all over by 3:30 PM.. As the search for Abby Williams and Libby German ends at a crime scene, the reality of what's happened is worse than anyone could have imagined. Carrie added that everything she knows about it, she learned on Facebook. As far as Mr. X being a POI, I disagree, as I also disagree that the Delphi Murders are connected. Tony Slocum said at the time, referring to Liberty. The revelations come just two weeks after authorities released a redacted version of the probable cause affidavit that led to Richard Allen's arrest. Delphi man charged with murder in killings of Libby German and Abby Williams. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. 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